The magnetic field Hdis(T) where an order-disorder transition of the vortex lattice in high-Tc superconductors occurs, is investigated by measurements of the magnetization M(H) in Bi2.1Sr1.9CaCu2O8 + delta (Bi2212) single crystals doped with iron and lead. Comparative studies are made of the temperature dependences of the field Hpeak(T), where the second peak occurs in |M(H)|, and the fields Hmin(T), and Hinfl(T) where a minimum and an inflection point occur at the low-field side of this peak. It is proposed that Hdis(T) lies close to Hinfl. In Bi2.1Sr1.9Ca1.0(Cu1–yFey)2O8 + delta single crystals with Fe concentration y = 0, 0.005, 0.016, and 0.022, a pronounced peak in the derivative |dM/dH| is observed, whose position Hinfl(T) is independent of temperature T. We relate this peak to the field Hdis(T), which separates a weakly elastically disordered vortex lattice from a plastically disordered vortex solid. In heavily Pb-doped single Bi2212 crystals, Hinfl(T) decreases with increasing T. For the same crystals, a minimum in the normalized relaxation rate S(H) is observed at Hinfl, indicating two different flux-creep mechanisms above and below that field and two different solid vortex phases. It is argued that the negative slope of Hdis(T) in heavily-Pb-doped Bi2212 crystals is related to the enhanced c axis conductivity caused by the Pb sitting between the CuO2 layers and causing three-dimensional vortex lines, while in Fe-doped Bi2212 crystals the Fe ions sit on the CuO2 planes and thus do not enhance the coupling between pancake vortices.